Wednesday, September 19, 2018

texas $$$ get rich. college degree in Accounting engineering business

Texas is better for work than retirement.
Best pay $$$ for best skills. Excellent college system why economy booming.
Like California 50 years ago.

Property taxes higher than California so rent.

Sales taxes also high so do not shop.

No income tax so work all the time.
Start a business.
Take out maximum loans.
Max out all credit cards.
All billionaires and millionaires learn how to maximize debt and minimize taxes. Often go bankrupt but end up with everything Zuckerberg Bezos Gates etc.

Some areas have smog esp big cities so study carefully be ready to move.

Lubbock biggest cotton field in the world GMO glyphosate pesticides boll weevil etc.
But windy blows it away and heat kills glyphosate.

San Antonio far south
hills block pacific westerlies and oil field stink NW of town.
get some humidity trade winds from gulf will be warm winters.

San Antonio University has 6 units free tuition for 60+ but not as goid as Lubbock.
Good VA and medical college.

Lubbock ranked as the most conservative city in USA so not everybody likes it.
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> Lubbock free degree 55 + ages a beautiful college campus dry, sunny, cool summer nights due to moderate high altitude.
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> Just north of the biggest Oil Fields
> so housing is not expensive
> Some vacant land and cheaper farms and ranches nearby.
> Not overpopulated as is the main part of Texas.
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> When you get your last paycheck in California move immediately drivers license, auto plates, voting and everything to Texas Zero Income Tax.
> Use as home base for travel or live there year round.
> Good Homestead laws in Texas to protect acres and houses.
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> You may have to pay Taxes to California for your last few months there.
> Best to move December 30, complete evacuation.
> Notify post office, California tax authorities, everybody of your new Texas Address.
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> After 1 year you are resident of Texas for free tuition at all the state universities.
Some quite high quality.


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> as Lubbock is in a semi-arid climate it is sunny or at most partly cloudy most of the year.
> However, the wind whips across the plains frequently.
> My son would occasionally call us as he was walking between classes and I could sometimes not understand him as the wind was whistling by.
> Also, semi-arid means relatively low humidity so that's a good thing.
> As you may know, Lubbock is on a fertile plain (the Llano Estacado) with lots of irrigated cotton fields for miles around
> (i.e., no cactus or rocky soil that one might expect in a semi-arid area).
> This was a "pleasant surprise" to me.
>
> If you have not been, please visit the vast Tech campus.
> It is very impressive.
> As the largest city in 125 miles, Lubbock itself has a lot more things going for it than a city of 200,000 normally would.
> A decent size airport with lots of Southwest flights;
> a couple large medical centers (including Tech's med school);
> more restaurants per capita than any city of comparable size in the country (all those Tech students to appease);
> lots of shopping focused around "the mall" in the southwest part of the city, etc.
>
> Lubbock is obviously no Austin, but it sure beats Waco and most other mid-sized Texas cities in terms of amenities
> I attended the University of Chicago (first hand info)
> and my son is a sophomore is in the Honors College at Texas Tech (so second hand info).
> Were you accepted into Tech's Honors College?
> If you decide to go to Tech,
> you will find the Honors College students often form strong bonds early on and are encouraged to participate in Honors activities of various kinds (such as the current events lunch every Friday).
> The Honors Freshman Year Experience classes really help nurture the ties not only between students, but also faculty and students.
>
> The Tech home football games are great for the fun part of being a college student.
> The Honors kids can roll out of bed on a Saturday morning at Gordon Hall and are less than half a mile away walk over to the tail gate parties before the games.
> My son really enjoys this.
> Both the men's and women's basketball games are a great time as well.
>
> I can answer questions about Hyde Park (the neighborhood around the University of Chicago) and the city,
> but if you want to know specifically about the University of Chicago social scene and related questions,
> I loved going to U of C myself, but it's a completely different experience than Texas Tech will be
> Lubbock as a town is ugly and boring, as is the whole Texas Panhandle region. (Yeah I said it. I was born there.)
> The Texas Tech campus, on the other hand, is very attractive and is the region's one bright spot, socially and culturally.
> Kids who go there universally rave about it.
> But one wonders what they are comparing it to?
>
> be sure to walk over to the Recreation Center (it won't be on the tour).
> It is the largest one of its kind for a public university in Texas (see the climbing wall, the huge outdoor pool, etc.)
>
> Also, drop over to the International Cultural Center (ICC), which is on the northwest side of campus across the highway from the Medical Center,
> and see how numerous the study abroad opportunities are.
> My son is taking an Honors class in African Affairs this semester by a former ambassador to a country in West Africa who is also the head of the ICC.
>
> If a Washington D.C. semester is your cup of tea, Tech has its own residence facility in Washington (not many colleges/universities can say that)
> and a competitive scholarship program (a $4000 award) to defray some of the costs living in D.C.
>
> As you know from my other posts, the undergraduate research opportunities at Tech are outstanding, especially in the sciences.
> Before my son and I visited Tech and Lubbock for the first time, he said that "no way" was he ever going to go to that "hick" town of Lubbock.
> He was used to the malls and other amenities of our large Dallas suburb.
> So his expectations were low for Lubbock in particular.
> As we drove around the edge of campus, we noticed that the rock group, Metallica, was coming to Tech's basketball arena.
> I said "hick towns" don't get groups like Metallica coming to town.
> He couldn't deny that.
> Then we drove around the west and southwest parts of the city which reminded him very much of our Dallas suburb in its residential areas,
> the mall, and close-by restaurants.
> (Embassy Suites - a major hotel chain - just opened up a facility near the mall.)
> If you are flying into Lubbock, the airport is very nice for a city of 200,000.
> Also, the mall itself (South Plains Mall) is very attractive and well-laid out INSIDE with a zillion stores inside
> (the outside of the mall is blah but inside is very appealing).
> Be sure to walk a bit as well to get a flavor of the city.
> North of 15th Street and University Avenue bordering on the east side of campus are several new apartment complexes
> (not part of the University) built primarily to attract Tech students.
> Also, there are new townhouses and several new businesses.
> This section of the city (called "North Overton") is the largest privately funded urban renewal project in the country
> (at a couple hundred million dollars plus).
> Don't scoff, but a new super Wal-Mart (very convenient for a student's budget) just opened in North Overton less than a mile from campus.
> Also, if you have a chance, browse down brick-lined Broadway Avenue starting at University Avenue (the east entry to Tech)
> and see some of the grand old churches and large old homes.
> Broadway connects downtown to Tech.
> If you see Lubbock exclusively by car, you will likely say "boring, boring", but if you walk a bit, try a restaurant here or there, etc. you may come to find it's quite livable.
> I know it's too late for this visit, but if you come again to Lubbock with your parents try to stay at the Hawthorn Suites at 19th and University (just across from campus).
> It's comfy, relaxing, and very convenient.
> I flew out to Lubbock a couple of weeks ago from Austin in order to visit Tech, and came to the sad realization that most of the awful things I've heard about it are true.
> My Dad and I spent the whole weekend trying to be optimistic about the school.
> By Sunday, we were burned out and a bit depressed, we drove to a windmill museum for a couple of hours waiting for our plane.
> I'm sorry but Tech is off my list.
> Lubbock is a city of well over 200,000 people which has all the restaurants, shopping, golf courses, lower income neighborhoods, etc. that a city its size has.
> In fact, it has more. Lubbock has a large airport, medical school and more doctors (and restaurants) per capita than any city of its size in Texas.
> Plano (where I live) has over 250,000 population and does not have the airport, med school or major university like Tech.
> But YOU take a look and decide what's right for you. Start asserting yourself for YOUR life. There's no time like the present.
> My first husband (from a small town near Corpus Christi) went to Texas Tech, after being the valedictorian of his (small) class in high school, and really liked it.
> He got involved in school activities (was co-editor of the yearbook), and did well enough that he was then accepted into George Washington Univ. law school
> (I met him in the DC area).
> When we had been married just a year or two, we went to a college reunion at TT (along with a few friends from his college days),
> and we had a blast (went to a football game, went out for great Mexican food, etc.).
> As someone who's not a great fan of Texas, in general (sorry, Texans!),
> I found Lubbock to be an interesting place, both in how it looks, and what there was to do there.
> I do recall my ex-H talking about tumbleweeds occasionally rolling down the street, but that might be cool once in a while!
> I can tell you that Tech is a great place to go to college.
> Social life is as good as it gets in a college atmosphere.
> Friendliest people in the world.
> Much more diversity than TCU simply due to the demographics (TCU limits diversity by it's price tag).
> Tech is fairly easy to get accepted into if you are a decent student.
> Last time I looked the 50% SAT scores were about 1000 - 1210 for CR+M.
> Also, if you score above 1250 on the SAT and have decent HS GPA, you qualify for merit aid scholarship money.
> Plus, Tech has one of the nicest campuses you will ever see.
> Lots of new like TCU, but much nicer athletic facilities.
> Tech has a huge contingent of kids from all the big cities in Texas.
> The common perception is that Lubbock is a small town, but it's over 200,000 population, and I think it's the second or third largest city in the Big 12 conference.
> It offers pretty much all the same things that a suburb of Houston offers, sans bugs and humidity.
> (Lubbock is notorious for a few scary sandstorms every spring, but other than that has a great climate with all four season.)
> If you haven't done so, I highly recommend a visit to the campus and to your desired college.
> Lubbock has a large medical community, including Tech's medical school.
> If you are hung up on living in a larger city, there's probably not much I can do to make you feel better about Lubbock.
> But you might be pleasantly surprised if you come to visit.
> Currently Texas has three tier 1 schools: UT, A&M, and Rice.
> Texas Tech and UofH are both on track to become top tier schools by 2015.
> It's hard to find a prettier campus than Tech and the climate is WAY nicer than Houston.
> I lived in Houston when I was in my 20's and it was fun but the climate SUCKS big time,
> I hated coming home from Christmas shopping all sweaty and hot because it was still 85 degrees outside.
> If that sounds good to you (in addition to it being as steamy as a sauna) then you'll be with the over 3 million other people who put up with it somehow.
> But Lubbock is dry and mild, cooler in the summer than Houston and warmer in the winter than Amarillo to the north
> which almost ended up being Tech's home instead of Lubbock. Lubbock is a bigger town than Amarillo on account of being home to the school.
> I'm going to bring my daughter to look at it because even though it's not famous in particular for theater, (her major)
> I was impressed with the selection of drama majors and the program, and it has a special fine arts dorm that sounds really cool!
> According to collegedata.com, foreign students are one percent of the population from 103 countries,
> 80 percent of graduates report finding a job within six months (that's a pretty good figure) and
> 20 percent of males and 15 percent of females are greek.
>
> I know you aren't asking about Tech compared to UT or AM, but I'd take it over either one, personally,
> because AM is too conservative for me
> (Tech will be more conservative than someplace like Oberlin or UT though, for sure) and
> UT is just kind of brutal to undergrads as it has more kids than it wants due to the Texas guaranteed admissions rules
> and does not especially make much effort to acquire or keep freshmen, it has too many.
> It won't (can't) guarantee freshman housing, they just have too many.
> UTArlington is of a completely different character than UT Austin, though, btw.
> my step dad and his sister are both alums (one a lawyer and one a musician) and they loved Tech.
> As far as job market recognition, that's going to depend almost more on the department itself than the school;
> but Tech is probably the more recognized in general of all those you mention.
> The mural I have been working on lately is in a house owned by a lady whose son is going there this fall as an English professor and
> he's been staying there over the summer: I couldn't tell you how he is as a professor as I haven't been a student!
> But from knowing him personally I would have no reservations at all if my daughter were to end up in his class.
> He is very pleased with his new position and the school.
> I'm looking forward to taking D there to visit; it's a safety for my daughter
> (she's well above the guaranteed admission stats)
> and it would probably end up financially feasible.
> I don't think the theater program is an audition only admission program yet,
> Southwest Airlines has plenty of flights to Lubbock. It will answer many of your questions.
> My son is a Tech grad in business from a couple years ago and really enjoyed the whole Tech experience.
> We are from a north Dallas suburb with tons of shopping and amenities.
> Before his first visit to Tech in his senior year of high school, he had bought into the "Lubbock is a hick town" reputation.
> During the visit he liked the Tech campus straight-off but was leery of what Lubbock had to offer.
> After driving around town by the shopping mall,
> restaurants,
> movie theatres, a
> nd seeing that a top rock band was scheduled to play in Tech's basketball arena, etc.
> he concluded that Lubbock was similar in feel and offerings to our north Dallas suburb.
> He was glad he chose Tech.
> Entrance requirements to Tech's Business School are not difficult. (I tried to google undergraduate admissions but got nowhere.)
> A collegiate transfer needs a minimum 2.75 grade point average.
> Tech's Business School does an excellent job of getting employers of all sizes to come to Tech and give on-campus interviews, internships, etc.
> A plus for Tech's Business School is that it has its own career counseling and recruitment center
> apart from the job finding / employment services offered by the University.
> In 2008 the career fairs with employer interviews in particular were very helpful in my son's job search.
> While looking for a job on his own he had come up with few prospects.
> The career fair was a comparative gold mine.
> He got several second interviews in a variety of industries and was hired by a Fortune 500 oil field services company.
> He got in by the skin of his teeth as the job market fell apart along with the U.S. economy in late 2008.
> You start off as Business-undecided when you start as a freshman (if you get in, which isn't too hard but the standards are going to go up and up as the years go on.
> The university has a goal to grow to 40K in the next 10 years but from what I've heard for the higher ups in the business building is that
> the business school wants to stay pretty much at the amount of students they are at now
> (maybe a small % more but not a direct proportional increase with overall university increase).
> daughter at Arkansas and a son at Tech so I will offer my 2 cents...
> Similar size student populations
> Tech is a more conservative campus (Clintons met at Arkansas and the campus is more "diverse") (man I hate PC speak)
> Lubbock is a GREAT small city.
> Friendly people.
> Clean (the wind blows all the trash to Ft. Worth. LOL).
> Conservative.
> Was a dry city until last year.
> Both have beautiful campuses.... in the spring and early summer. Winter not so much.
> Ark MUCH better in summer.
> Weather is not too dissimilar most of the year except for the wind.
> It is ALWAYS blowing on the high plains.
> Sports.... Big whatever it'll be vs SEC. SEC wins hands down but the big school experience for sports is there at both.
> Football Rules at both and the fans are.... passionate!! LOL
> Both have great traditions. I must say I think the Senior walk at Ark is really cool.
> Tech Medicine and Engineering are top notch.
> Ark Business, Engineering, Poultry Science (Tyson is an Arkansas Company)
> From what I've seen student housing is better at Ark.
> Newer and bigger.
> Both require freshman to live on campus.
> Ark has two year old freshman dorms.
> Tech 20+ (sons room is the exact copy of my room when I was in college in the 80's at another school)
> Parking!!!!! not great at Arkansas
> (hint make sure to fill out your housing survey ever year if you are going to live on campus the next year and want to park anywhere near your dorm.)
> Tech has TONS of parking and most of it close to your dorm.
> Oh yeah, at Ark you have to move your car from most student lots during football games and some basketball games.
> The size of Fayetteville doubles when there is a home fb game. Seriously!!!
> A bike is great at Tech....
> Lance Armstrong would struggle riding at Ark. They don't call it the "Hill" for nothing.
> Arkansas will waive out of state tuition if you have a 25 ACT and a 3.5 HS GPA.
> Maintain a 3.25 to keep it. (Heard they lowered the initial GPA but didn't confirm)
> Daughter is in International Business and has had PAYING internships each of the past two summers and already has a job waiting when she graduates this year.
> Son is in Electrical Engineering and not eligible for engineering internship yet but got a summer job through the career center.
> Both schools have GREAT placement records and outstanding career centers.
> Both also have a separate business and Engineering career centers.
> Of the two I'd say that
> Arkansas has an EXTREMELY loyal alumni base that recruit heavily from the THE school in Arkansas and they have the Waltons. nuff said.
> My estimation is that Tech is not as strong in this area.
> If business is the thing then I'd pick Ark.
> Of the last few business fairs I've looked at it seems more national and international companies recruit at Ark.
> If you want to stay in Texas or the South, Tech does well.
> Money was a biggie for us.
> Cost of attendance at Tech is still cheaper than UT or A&M.
> Off campus housing is WAY cheaper at Tech than UT, A&M or Ark.
> Food....
> I like Ark meal plan better and I think the food is better.
> They also have Razorbucks as part of the meal plan.
> These can be used at campus stores and non food services vendors.
> The hours seem to be better.
> Son is always complaining that the cafeteria in his dorm closes at 9:00am after breakfast and 6:00pm after dinner so he has to go across campus to eat after late classes.
> Tech has FREEBIRDS!!!!!
> Greek life is better at Ark.
> Lubbock has a Brothel Law that makes it illegal for more than 3 unrelated people to live in the same house.
> (I told you Lubbock was conservative)
> That means no resident frat or sorority houses.
> They still have them but it just isn't the same in my opinion.
> (I'm Greek and remember fondly the two years spent living with my brothers at our house)
> We have found the parent network at both schools to be great.
> Friendly, helpful and a good place to learn from those that came before. (good place to get tickets too)
> Student activity center at Tech has a cool pool.
> Both are great and plenty of opportunities to be active to fit the freshman 15.
> Like most large universities there are plenty of opportunities at either to get involved with whatever your "thing" is or to find out what your "thing" is if you don't know yet.
> That's what makes university an awesome experience.
> Lastly..... go visit the campuses.
> I have counseled many young people about picking a school and one thing I firmly believe in is that
> when you visit a campus you will know the right one when you get there.
> You'll feel it in your gut.
> I think this holds true about 90% of the time. Hope this helps.
> Woo Pig Soooie and Guns Up!!!!
> Although Ark has the better business school...
> if your child wants to get a BA degree it really isnt as simple as go to arkansas.
> It really depends on the major.
> Tech has a great Accounting program (and very competitive MSA program) and its very easy to get a job with the Big 4 in Dallas or Houston.
> The Management Info Systems degree also has amazing placement…
> and the personal financial planning program (not technically in the business school) is one of the best (if not the best) in the nation.
> If you want to work in Texas, I would go to Tech for business.
> If location doesnt matter, Ark would be probably preferred.
> So I am biased, Tech grad '81 .. but Tech is a very good school. good brand name ... lots of pluses.
> As to the Lubbock comment, there are
> 30,000 18-23 y.o.s --
> big 12 sports,
> access to NM if you are an outdoorsman,
> decent people and
> no traffic to speak of ...
> great college town... if you are energetic enough to make your own fun … it wont be handed to you though.
> And I live in Houston now and love it .. but
> lubbock is a fine college town and experience.
> I probably will forget something, but here is some info from my experience.
> I am currently a senior at Texas Tech, for reference.
> I'm a dude so shopping isn't really my thing, but there is a mall --- called South Plains Mall.
> It is definitely no Galleria, but I guess it's a pretty "normal" one story mall.
> Lubbock is a big enough town that you can find good food if you look for it.
> There are of course many chains,
> but there is also some very good local food as well.
> Much like any state school, there is definitely our share of frats, but I would say overall it's manageable.
> If you go out of your way to meet people you can find people that want to party every weekend,
> never drink,
> and plenty of people somewhere in between the two extreme sides of the spectrum.
> If you sit in your room and don't make an effort, you won't meet anyone new!
> As far as other entertainment, there are sometimes local things going down, and there have been some pretty good concerts too.
> I'm not really too into music, but I did see
> Jimmy Eat World my freshman year (Paramore opened).
> Also George Strait came about two years ago and I believe he is coming through Lubbock this coming spring with
> Reba McEntire.
> If you are sports fan, you will always find something to do.
> Between football games in the fall, and other sports like basketball, baseball, softball, and
> women's soccer you can almost always find something and the best part:
> IT'S FREE WITH YOUR STUDENT ID! The
> rec center is packed and if you are into playing pick-up sports
> then head down there on a Friday afternoon and you'll have no problem finding people to play
> volleyball,
> basketball, or
> indoor soccer.
> As far as the old redneck thing and small shops question, I am not exactly sure what you mean.
> I'll tell you that I wouldn't necessarily want to live in the LubbocK for the rest of my life,
> but I definitely am damn glad that I have gotten a nice slice of Tech the last 4 years.
> Do not go to tech.
> lubbock is in the middle of nowhere and
> kids get drunk cuz they cant do anything anything else.
> a&m is so much better socially and academically.
> 1) is there a place at College Station for liberal Democratic nonconformists?
> In short, yes.
> There are over 45,000 students at A&M, and contrary to popular opinion, they are not all conservative Republican conformists.
> Should your cousin choose to get involved with campus life, there are over
> 800 student organizations, including such clubs as
> Aggie Liberals,
> Texas Aggie Democrats, and
> Aggie Independents.
> http://getinvolved.tamu.edu/
> Quote:
> 2) is four years in Lubbock a fate worse than death?
> No, I would imagine four years in Lubbock would be ever so slightly better than dying.
> Quote:
> 3) in short, how much does the kid give up by going to Tech instead of A&M.
> In my opinion, the kid gives up a certain amount of
> academic excellence,
> prestige, and
> job/ networking opportunities should he choose Tech over A&M.
> With that said though, at each school it comes down to the student and what he/she makes of their education and experience.
> Lubbock.
> Again, the implication is that Bryan / College Station is some sort of San Francisco...
> while it is closer to Houston, I'm not sure that adds anything to the equation.
> Lubbock is a college town of >220,000 folks - and the Tech students are treated well by the population -
> Tech is the economic driver and they all know that.
> Again, it's fun place to go to school - nobody's asking the students to live there when they're done - there's no contract to sign.
> Quote: My questions to the forum:
> 1) is there a place at College Station for liberal Democratic nonconformists?
> 2) is four years in Lubbock a fate worse than death? or
> 3) in short, how much does the kid give up by going to Tech instead of A&M.
> 1. I'm sure there is - Texas A&M is a great school and I'm sure amongst 45,000 you can find a group that are similar thinkers.
> 2. You gotta be kidding me - that is such a close-minded statement.
> 3. If you hate your years at A&M you'll give up a lot - the same can be said at Tech - your cousin needs to go to the school they want to be at -
> if they qualify for both - choice is a wonderful thing - but don't go to a school for "assumed" prestige. You won't find me disparaging Texas A&M - a rivalry in a sports endeavor is one thing - the school can be accused of "groupthink" and their biggest issue at hand is their lack of multi-cultural acceptance - but these things do not define the school.
> y perspective of Tech is largely formed by my son's excellent experience with Tech's Honors College.
> Honors students come from all parts of the University (including agricultural sciences).
> For instance, in his junior year he was able to attend a Constitutional Law class (for first year law students) in Tech's Law School which confirmed his interest in law as a career. That would not have been possible at A&M because they do not have a law school.
> Prior to going out to Tech for our first visit, my son said "there's no way I will go to college in that hick town of Lubbock."
> Coming from a DFW area suburb he convinced himself that he was going to give up civilization in west Texas.
> Then we visited.
> First, he loved Tech's campus.
> Second, as we rode around Lubbock and saw the mall, restaurants, neighborhoods, etc. his opinion began to change.
> The clincher was that the rock group Metallica was coming to Lubbock for a concert at Tech's basketball arena.
> I said that "hick" towns don't get major concerts and he had to agree.
> He is one satisfied camper at Tech several years later.
> Visit Tech and A&M. Then make your decision. Tech will be more than hold its own.
> I went to Texas Tech for a semester before transferring to A&M.
> A&M is definitely the better choice out of the two.
> I had several problems with Tech.
> First, Tech tends to attract kids who lacked the maturity level and the grades to go to A&M or UT.
> Granted, not everyone was like that but a very sizable portion of the student body is.
> So I was stuck in class with kids who didn't have real direction or motivation in life; they were just in school because it was the thing to do.
> Also, there's a big frat sorority mentality up there.
> I don't know about any of you, but I've dated a ton of girls and I'm tired of the airhead bottle blonde types who's major is "Sorority."
> Secondly, there's nothing to do in Lubbock besides drink.
> You had two choices during the weekend: go to a bar or go to a house party.
> Considering that you can do that anywhere else, there is no reason to pick Lubbock over College Station or Austin.
> Third, Tech is becoming stagnant as far as academics are concerned.
> Right now, according to the rankings (if you are into that sort of thing), Texas State in San Marcos is equal to or higher ranked than Texas Tech.
> Tech is in a part of the state with a declining population and the town doesn't really have anything to offer,
> so all Tech can attract are the kids from 200+ miles away who can't get into A&M or UT.
> Fourth, A&M and UT have much, much larger alumni networks and the alumni, especially the Aggies, stick together.
> It's easier to find employment with a degree from A&M or UT.
> Because there are so much more A&M and UT graduates than Tech graduates, you've got more people for you than against you.
> Also, A&M and UT are much better known outside of Texas
> so it will really help if you're planning on moving away from Texas or are considering grad school out-of-state at a prestigious university.
> I initially went to Tech because I wasn't comfortable with the "Aggie cult" but once I got to Tech and didn't like my situation,
> I sucked it up and went to A&M. Turns out it was one of the best decisions I've made, especially from an education standpoint.
> I don't think that Tech is a bad school or anything, but if you have the grades and the money to go to A&M or UT, then I don't really see any point of going to Tech.
> Otherwise Tech is a fine choice and it's not really going to hurt you in the long run, but you'll get a little more out of a degree from A&M or UT.
> But the difference in tuition between A&M and Tech isn't that much so I think grades would be the main limiting factor.
> Here's my replies to what's been posted above: I don't agree with the Tech Honors vs. A&M comparison.
> I think having a Honors degree in Tech makes employers realize that you aren't a stereotypical Tech student, which is a very good thing,
> but A&M grads will probably not pick a Tech Honors student over an A&M student.
> Quote: The implication here is that there is no Tech network or that they do not take care of their own which would be false.
> Yeah, but compare Tech's network to A&M's or UT's network and you'll see a much, much larger difference.
> Also, the weight of the A&M and UT "brand name" will allow you to major in not-quite-in-demand subjects without hurting you too bad career wise.
> I knew a girl who has a English degree from UT-Austin who works in real estate development and I doubt she could've done it with an English degree from Tech.
> Part of her success comes from UT's huge network.
> Quote: He hates A&M...says it's almost cult-like. Of course, that's his biased opinion.
> He should've picked a school for the educational quality instead of placing more emphasis on other factors.
> I made that mistake by picking Tech and I corrected it.
> I went to Tech BEFORE I transferred to A&M.
> I went to Tech because I wasn't comfortable with the environment at A&M, but
> I finally decided to suck it up and go to A&M because A&M has more people who have motivation and focus.
> Texas Tech has no culture, period.
> If you want smaller classes and individual attention, you really won't find it much better at Tech compared to A&M.
> You need to go to a liberal arts school for that.
> You've really got to be joking if you are going to suggest that College Station is not in a dream location but then recommend Tech.
> Lubbock is on a dirt plateau in a sparely populated part of the state, far away from the major cities.
> Some of you need to realize that college is only four years long but the degree is with you the rest of your life.
> College teachers are liberal at most colleges, including Tech. However,
> you will not find a more conservative student body than at Tech.
> And as you already know, Lubbock as a town is ultra-conservative.
> it is still a university with over 31,000+ students so there are plenty of liberals but the town is def. conservative.
> i would actually rate tech more apathetic than anything else.
>
> The only thing TT has on A&M is hotter women.
> But they all have STDs, so maybe it's not such a plus.
> I think a large part of the problem is the general attire of women at A&M.
> Typical attire for women at A&M is t-shirt, athletic shorts, and sandals.
> It's pretty hard to look attractive when you wear this day in and day out.
> And the weird thing is, this attire is MORE common from sorority girls at A&M.
> The issue with Tech is that 90% of the women there are, or seem like, fake sorority sluts who dress sexier.
> To the average college guy, that is going to be more attractive.
> If girls at A&M dressed different, and no not necessarily sexy but at least fashionable, we might be able to see the true potential of A&M women.
> For me I prefer A&M women.
> To stereotype, Tech women are generally slutty and not very smart.
> Most of the women from my HS that went there fit this build.
> My A&M gal is attractive, yet made me work for her attention and affection when I was initially pursuing her.
> She is smart, and strives to do well in school, not just pass her classes.
> You can be sexy and not an airhead slut, I've seen it first-hand.
> If you're not a non-Christian, you will be fine.
> Texas Tech is not a hugely religious school but the religious groups do make themselves known.
> You gotta realize that Lubbock is so boring that really the only thing to do there is drink.
> So, for the religious types that don't drink, having nothing else to do amplifies their strength in their religion.
> But seriously, if you can get into another school in Texas, like UT or A&M, I'd go that route.
> I was at Tech for a semester and hated it because besides drinking and going to the handful of bars there, there isn't much to do in Lubbock.
> It's too far from the rest of Texas anyway.
> "Why do so many leave?" Well, since I was at Tech for a semester and I left, I'm probably qualified to answer this question. Gosh, where do I start?
> There's so many ways to answer this one. Here's the reasons why I left.
> First off, in Texas, Texas Tech has a lack of prestige and and respect.
> The alumni network at Tech is nowhere near as big or powerful as Texas A&M or UT.
> If you get a good degree at A&M or UT, you really don't even need to look for a job; you just need to know other A&M or UT graduates and you'll find a job through them.
> In that way, Tech is no different that most of the other universities in Texas.
> That and Texas Tech just doesn't have as much respect as A&M and UT, which isn't surprising since A&M and UT combined have several times more students.
> Hell, even the law school at Tech is a joke.
> A lot of the top lawyers in Texas went to UT or Baylor.
> Then there's the location.
> Lubbock is in the middle of nowhere, hundreds and hundreds of miles away from everywhere else.
> They are no festivals and few outdoor activities in the entire area.
> So if you come to Tech you better like drinking a lot because that's all there is to do there.
> Frankly that gets really boring to me.
> I rather go out and hunt, fish, or SOMETHING besides sitting at some dude's apartment or swimming pool and drink around total strangers.
> The actual town of Lubbock SUCKS.
> It's basically a welfare, section 8 town with a large university in it.
> The area around campus is starting to see new construction, as well as the southwest side of town
> but that doesn't negate the fact that there's nothing else to do in town besides drink.
> Part of the reason the Christian groups at Tech are so big because they have to be to stay busy; they don't drink and there's nothing else to do.
> Then there's the fact that Tech's admission standards are very low.
> Now, I don't have a problem with schools with low admission standards, hell some of them are actually good schools,
> but the problem with Tech is that it attracts kids that want the big school party experience but can't get into A&M or UT.
> So, there ends up being some real idiots and low lives at Tech.
> On more than one occasion while I was up there I've had more than a few student drivers come close to wrecking into me with real bonehead moves.
> One idiot even pulled a U-turn in a public street right in front of me.
> Then there was another guy who flew into a parking lot, almost ran into me, and then got loud at me.
> I told him to get out of his car and fight me then, but he didn't.
> I'm not going to deal with a whole bunch of idiots while I'm in college.
> College is supposed to have a little more class than high school.
> The kids get into Tech, can't handle the coursework, and then they end up flunking out.
> THAT'S why so many of them end up leaving Tech.
> The coursework at Tech is almost as heavy as A&M or UT but the admission standards are so low.
> Lastly, the school is pretty expensive when you don't consider it a flagship school.
> I think right now 15 semester hours at Tech is about $3,200.
> At A&M, excluding the enhancement fees, is around $3,500.
> Not only is A&M in a nicer part of the state with more stuff to do, a degree at A&M has more weight so it's much easier to get a career as an Aggie graduate.
> You are actually getting more for your money at A&M.
>
> The girls at Tech are pretty but a lot of them are shallow.
> Too many of them are overdressed blondes.
> Personally I think the girls at UT are just as good looking as a whole and there's less girls at UT that are shallow.
> So if you combine all of those reasons, that's pretty much why I left. To me,
> Tech is an overpriced regional school way too far away and I'd worry about getting ahead career-wise with a degree from Tech.
> Personally I think you would be better off going to a smaller state school with no reputation instead of Texas Tech, which has a bad reputation to A&M or UT graduates.
> A lot of the guys that are hiring have graduated from A&M or UT, so I don't want them to think badly about me before the interview.
> Sorry if I offended anyone who goes to Tech or has a child whose going to Tech.
> Tech isn't a bad school and you won't starve to death with a degree from Tech.
> Just in my situation it wasn't the best choice of a school for me.
> "Too many of them are overdressed blondes"
> I am actually looking for a school with many underdressed blondes.
> A&M when you know nothing about the school. Quote:
> Tech has less to do in the surrounding area, but unless you bail for Houston over the weekend Bryan CS isn't going to offer a significant improvement. Oh really?
> 1) Chili Fest
> 2) Lakes and Rivers
> 3) Yell Practice
> 4) Hunting
> 5) Plenty of bars with no cover charges
> 6) Driving distance to other places in Texas
> Lubbock has none of this at all. Quote: A&M is not any more nationally known than Tech. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
> You are an idiot. You're trying to tell us that an
> air, land, sea and space grant university that is ranked in the top 100 schools, which also spends $400 million a year on research, is not better known than Texas Tech?
> Texas has two flagship universities - UT - Austin which has by far the largest academic resources and Texas A&M.
> Except for UT Austin, Texas Tech as the dominant state university in West Texas is competitive with every Texas state university including Texas A&M.
> Let's talk facts.
> Texas Tech is the only state university that has a graduate school, law school, and medical school on the same campus.
> Reflecting its growing academic prowess, Texas Tech was one of only seven colleges/universities in the country awarded a Phi Beta Kappa chapter last year
> (with UT-Austin and A&M as the only other Texas state universities with chapters).
> Tech's Honors College has early entrance programs to both the medical and law schools at Tech.
> Can a similar statement be made for TAMU's Honors programs?
> The dean of Tech's Honors College, Dr. Gary Bell, is consulted by universities around the country to advise on their honors programs.
> For example, a couple years ago Dr. Bell critiqued University of North Texas' honors program.
> Tech's Honors College is one of only four or five honors colleges in the country with faculty having appointments only in the honors college
> and a couple majors only for honors students.
> I can't back it up with fact because it is my opinion, but I am just calling it like I see it and basing it on experiences of people I know.
> Look, maybe my comment was a little harsh and probably exaggerated,
> and I'm not saying that Tech is a terrible school, but if we're comparing it to A&M there simply is no comparison.
> Once again, there are exceptions, and I know of some pretty smart kids that have gone off to Tech and have some good friends that will probably go there next year, but all in all it is just not a well regarded school because it's student body is overall very subpar.
> Honestly, the typical students from my school who end up at Tech are the ones who don't give a **** about school and make bad grades then realize that they can't get in anywhere and decide "Whatever I'll just go to Tech."
> I have known of at least two people who have flunked out by their sophomore year because all they do is drink (you can find this at most colleges I'm sure but it really seems more prevalent at Tech).
> Also, I've noticed that many people who are serious about academics transfer after their freshman year.
> This is all just coming from my perspective as a student at a Texas public HS that sends MANY kids to Tech, A&M, and UT.
> Texas Tech as the dominant state university in West Texas is competitive with every Texas state university including Texas A&M.
> Lubbock is actually in the Panhandle; West Texas is considered to be the Permian Basin region.
> But "dominant state university?" What other schools are out there? UTPB?
> It's pretty easy to be the dominant state university when there's few schools out there to begin with.
> Competitive against other Texas schools? Hahahahaha!
> Yeah, a school of 25,000 that has easier admission standards is really competitive against two other, more selective schools with a combined student body of 90,000+.
> Sorry, but being a flagship school means that it is more respected, so how can Tech be competitive?
> Tech isn't even attracting the same types of students as UT and A&M.
> Quote: Texas Tech is the only state university that has a graduate school, law school, and medical school on the same campus.
> Considering that their law school is only 5th out of 9 in Texas, who cares?
> It gets beat out by UT, SMU, Baylor, and even UH.
> Quote: Reflecting its growing academic prowess Last I checked, you only needed a 2.5 GPA on 12 semester hours to get in.
> Even Angelo State's requirements are harder.
> Quote: Texas Tech was one of only seven colleges/universities in the country awarded a Phi Beta Kappa chapter last year
> Yeah, put that on your resume...
> Quote: Tech's Honors College has early entrance programs to both the medical and law schools at Tech. Can a similar statement be made for TAMU's Honors programs? Considering that A&M's program is the best of the two, who cares?
> Quote: Tech's Honors College is one of only four or five honors colleges in the country with faculty having appointments only in the honors college and a couple majors only for honors students. Once again, put this on your resume and see how far it gets you...
> Quote: UT-Austin is better overall academically than Texas A&M Once again, you don't have a clue.
> The reason I picked A&M was because it's the other way around.
> UT only has three really standout programs: business, engineering, and geosciences.
> Other than that, their programs are no better than your average state school.
> Not only was my major at A&M on par with UT's, I felt that A&M had more to offer me academically and socially.
> I probably would've been just a number at UT.
> Quote: With that said, Tech has lots of positive things going for it and
> it takes a visit to Lubbock and College Station for an individual student to decide what is the best "fit" for them.
> Ha ha, like there's anything in Lubbock that you can't find in College Station. Well, maybe if your son is on the state prairie dog hunting team,
> Lubbock would be a better fit for him.
> Quote: My son was turned off by the Aggie culture when he visited as a high school senior and loves Tech
> Doesn't say a whole lot about your son if he wanted to be around a drinking and partying environment filled with morons with no direction in life rather than a school that has a better reputation academically.
> He's probably going to regret not sucking up the Aggie culture in order to get a degree that's easier to find a career with.
> Quote: To interested students, find what's right for you by visiting both and then decide I don't think there's a lot of students out there who have a decision of A&M or Tech.
> Hell, I was an exception.
> Quote: Back up your bluster about Tech with facts.
> Well, for starters, you could compare Tech's rankings to A&M and UT in US News
> What?? I don't mean to sound like an a--, but unless you're in agriculture, that statement is FAR from the truth.
> UT is by far the strongest university in Texas - public or private - in terms of overall faculty quality and strength of academic departments.
> And yes, that includes Rice.
> This means as an overall research university, not just undergrad.
> EVERY academic ranking source shows this from the National Research Council, London Times, all the departmental rankings in USNWR.
> Even in the USNWR undergrad rankings, UT has a higher peer reputation score than Rice.
> In the NRC rankings, UT-Austin was #1 in Texas in 30 of its 37 ranked academic programs
> (the others were bio-related programs at UT Southwestern and Baylor COM).
> Practically EVERY academic department program at UT is ranked in the top 20 (or higher) - in the country.
> Neither A&M, Rice, or certainly any other school in Texas can say the same thing.
> Only 3 standout programs?? You realize that except for business and engineering, they really don't rank undergraduate programs, right?
> If you look at graduate rankings, however, basically EVERY academic program at UT is among the top in the COUNTRY, and #1 in Texas.
> And even at the undergrad level, you are forgetting programs like architecture, film, journalism, computer Science, music, etc.
> which are stellar undergrad programs and regularly listed among top programs at the undergrad level.
> Just because there aren't formal undergrad rankings doesn't mean UT doesn't excel in them as well.
> And since the graduate programs are among the top in the country, why wouldn't you think the undergrad programs wouldn't be?
> I don't mean to downplay A&M - it is indeed a strong school.
> But UT-Austin really is on a different level and closest Texas has to Berkeley, Michigan, UCLA, and Wisconsin
> (I'm not counting UVA or UNC since UT is already a much stronger research university than them in terms of overall ranked academic departments and faculty quality).
> To put something in perspective... UT, Rice, and A&M are all strong engineering schools.
> But do you realize UT has more faculty in the prestigious National Academy of Engineering than both Rice, A&M, and every other school in Texas *combined*?
> And that it is number 4 after only MIT, Stanford, and Berkeley in terms of faculty with this honor?
> It's not just due to UT's size - even in terms of percentage of faculty with this honor, UT is still stronger than Rice and A&M.
> Listen y'all, Texas Tech is great! If you're looking for a fraternity, look to Delta Chi.
> There's tons of places to drink cheap, lots of beautiful girls, a bunch of us good looking guys,
> the town loves Tech---there was a city wide celebration when the GIRLS basketball team won the championship!
> I'm talkin' a parade and everything.
> When they first got back, they brought 'em by limmo into the football stadium (limmos on the field!) where 40,000 people were in the stands to celebrate.
> No shxt. School spirit is very high.
> I liked Tech because it was laid back, but still has a good reputation as a university.
> I don't like the fact that it's in the middle of no where.
> Lubbock is bigger then most people give credit, but It's a nine hour drive from Houston (or a ridiculously short flight).
> I'm not sure it I want to do that drive for vacations back home.
> It's also has the reputation of being a party school/nothing to do school.
> I find these two reports to be quite different. Anyone want to clear them up?
> Tech does not have a good reputation as a university. It's not even well-known outside of Texas.
> Tech is basically a party school for average to below average students from high school.
> There is absolutely nothing to do in Lubbock except for house parties and those get old in a hurry.
> That's great. Now if Tech would raise their academic standards and get rid of the party hardy students, they would be on track.
> Then again, the school is still in Lubbock, far away from everywhere else.
> Before our first visit to Texas Tech in the fall of his senior year, my son said "no way" was he going to go to college in that hick town of Lubbock.
> We live in a large Dallas suburb with the usual diversions of malls, movies, and restaurants.
> The Tech campus itself is very appealing and well laid-out with, for example, the largest sports and recreation center of any Texas university.
> So the campus was a winner, but Lubbock??
> As a city of 200,000 Lubbock is the hub of the surrounding region for over 100 miles.
> Thus it has the mall, restaurants, shops, movie theatres, and residential areas that befit an urban regional center.
> Lubbock reminded my son of our home town. It wasn't "love at first sight", but he definitely felt Lubbock could be "liveable".
> Second, the "hick" town of Lubbock was a major draw for big rock groups and other performers.
> When we were there for our first visit, "Metallica" was advertised as coming to appear in Tech's new basketball arena, the United Spirit Arena.
> Several times I reminded him that hick towns don't get major entertainment groups coming through. He could not disagree.
> No tumbleweeds or cactus around the city of Lubbock either.
> What surprised me when we first drove into town was that the city is surrounded by fertile (and flat) cotton farm lands for dozens of miles.
> This also reminded us of the plains of North Texas.
> Throw in competitive sports teams at Tech in football (Coach Mike Leach) and basketball (Bobby Knight) along with the
> excellent academics in the Honors College and my son is quite happy.
> Of course, you would need to make a visit to Tech to make up your own mind about its possibilities for you.
> Go ahead and apply to UT-Austin, A&M, OU, and Tech's Honors College.
> If you are accepted to each one and decision time comes, I would bet that the draw of being a name and not a number would affect you the same way as it did my son.
> By the way, also look at the "Living" section of this past Sunday's Dallas Morning News (8-21) and the lead article on home schooled kids going to college.
> Featured is a boy young man from Grapevine with very high SAT scores, Eagle scout, etc. who is going to Tech's Honors College.
> This is another example of the Honor's College Admissions Committee evaluating the whole person.
> Campus:
>
> Friendliness/Courtesy of Students: 4 - Very Good Not too many students around during the summer but the ones that I met were small-town-friendly types.
>
> Friendliness/Courtesy of Staff: 5 - Excellent Very helpful and anxious for you to know what a great school they have.
> A staff person offered to drive me across campus on a very hot day, so I wouldn't have to walk.
>
> Appearance of Campus: 5 - Excellent The buildings coordinate with each other, in a Spanish mission style, with red tile roofs and lush gardening, especially considering its desert location.
>
> Building/Facilities Maintenance/Cleanliness: 5 - Excellent The student recreation center has wonderful facilities.
>
> The student union was undergoing remodeling.
> Much of the campus seemed to be undergoing renovation.
>
> Dormitories: 3 - Good My son stayed in an older dorm for a 7-week program.
> He had no complaints, but the rooms and halls did show some wear and tear.
> Common areas looked pretty good, clean and modern.
> Other dorms that I saw had been renovated inside and looked better.
>
> Overall Campus Impression:
> 4 - Very Good I liked Tech much more than I thought I would.
>
> Off-Campus: Area Immediately Around Campus:
> 3 - Good A main highway is being rebuilt with elevated/sunken intersections, and that should relieve traffic congestion around the campus.
> Traffic was light in the summer and many local shops were closed for the season.
>
> City/Town/Community:
> 2 - Fair Lubbock is the biggest drawback to Texas Tech. There just isn't much there, other than the college.
> It's too far away to drive to a big urban center. If you can get past the location, Texas Tech is great.
>
> Texas Tech's Honors College. My son is a "rising sophomore" in their Honors College and loves it.
> You may say, "Lubbock, no way no how!".
> My son initially had the same reaction before he visited the Tech campus and Lubbock.
> When we were done with this visit, his view toward Tech and Lubbock had changed.
> He said that large parts of Lubbock (about 200,000 population) reminded him of the Dallas suburb we live in (the mall, movie theaters, restaurants, etc.) and he was impressed that rock groups regularly come to Lubbock (Metallica was coming to perform a couple weeks after our visit).
> As to Tech's campus, it has the largest (and one of the newest) student recreation centers of any university in Texas;
> its student union is very attractive; and the campus as a whole is well-kept.
> As a freshman, my son lived in the honors dorm just a quarter mile from the football stadium.
> On home game days he just "rolled out of bed" and could saunter over to the tail gate parties before each game.
> He also said the basketball games (with Bobby Knight as coach) were amazing at the relatively new 15,000 seat basketball arena.
> As to Tech's Honors College itself, it is 1,000 students strong;
> has about 1330-1340 average SATS for incoming freshmen;
> is one of only four public universities in the country that has faculty whose only appointment is in the Honors College;
> is one of only a few universities that offer degree programs for specifically for their Honors students only
> (a Natural History and Humanities degree and a "generalist" liberal arts degree);
> and has special entrance requirements to Tech's Medical School and Law School for Honors College students.
>
> Lubbock, Texas?!?! Are you bloody insane?! Lubbock's like Hell's outhouse.
> It's a great goopy blend of religious zealouts and crack head bums.
> And trust me, I would know. I've only lived here MY ENTIRE LIFE!!!
> I swear on all things holy that if I don't get at least five hundred miles away from here for college,
> I'm either going to kill myself or just become a hobo in some foreign country.
> Lubbock, Texas! Jeez, what's WRONG with the world we live in?!?
> Want an even better description of Lubbock?
> It's like a grotesque blending of The Brady Bunch and The Twilight Zone.
> I just KNOW that if I don't get out of here as soon as I can, I'll be trapped FOREVER! ---
> The very agitated, disbelieving, shocked, and horrendously amused (in a crazy way, mind you)
>
> On the list of most liberal/most conservative cities Texas had three in the top five most conservative...
> Waco (Baylor), Abilene (Abilene Christian), and Lubbock (Texas Tech).
> On the least conservative Dallas was in the ninties and Austin dropped down to 140-something.
> I saw this on the news but I'll try to find a link.
> What you will find at many schools is that most kids fall towards the center--slightly to the left or right, and basically apathetic when it comes to politics.
> Then you will have your left, your right, and your "lunatic fringe" on either side.
> Sometimes one group may be more vocal than another, but that doesn't mean they speak for the whole school.
>
> Rice - Very prestigious private school located in one of the nicer areas of Houston.
> Has a residential college system.
> Considered a nerd school by pretty much everyone at my high school.
> When I visited, I didn't find the student body to be particularly attractive.
> Known to have a strong undergraduate focus, especially compared to UT.
> Good science and engineering programs.
>
> UT - Most kids #1 school. It seems like over half the kids that finish in the Top 10% end up going here.
> Known for being one of Texas's most liberal schools, if not the most liberal.
> Student body is a vibrant mix, ranging from drunken frat-boy to creative artsy girl to huge nerd (usually an engineering/math/science major).
> Known for Business, Communications and Engineering.
> Also known for having a pretty attractive student body, especially the girls.
>
> A&M - Not a big fan. A&M seems to be one of those places that you either love or hate / dislike.
> Most of the kids that go here tend to be Conservative.
> Also, the school is really big on ECs, so it's as no surprise that a lot of the kids that go here were especially active in clubs when they were high schoolers.
> Located in College Station, a rural town that revolves around the university.
> Known for having a good engineering program and decent business and science programs.
>
> UT Dallas - Becoming more and more prestigious. Admission standards are comparable to that of UT (Austin).
> Known for having a good science / pre-Med program and having a really depressing campus.
> I went there when the weather was overcast and I hated it.
> I live in the D/FW metroplex and most of the kids that want to live close to home and not pay too much go here.
>
> Texas Tech - Located in Lubbock, which is in the middle of nowhere.
> I've heard that all you can do in Lubbock is get drunk and / or have sex.
> Everyone I know that went there came back at least 10 lbs heavier.
> When I asked this woman I work with, who was a Tech grad, what she got her degree in, she responded
> "I got a BS in Drinking and Partying".
> If you want to party hard and don't have the grades to get into UT, you settle for Tech.
>
> Texas State - Public college located in San Marcos, which is located pretty close to Austin.
> A lot of slackers from my school go here.
> Supposed to be a party school.
>
> UT Arlington - Known at UTA (University of Thousands of Asians).
> Huge commuter school.
> You get to campus, go to class, then quickly leave campus.
> No school pride whatsoever.
>
> UT San Antonio - See UT Arlington.
>
> UNT - Students love to mention that they have the biggest Music Dept. in the country. Who cares?
>
> SMU - Known for having a wealthy and superficial student body.
> Most of the kids I know that went here are pretty wealthy (+500k home).
> I've heard that the school has really strong cliques and that some people obsess over getting into the right sorority or fraternity.
> Located in a nice neighborhood in Dallas.
> I stayed in one of the dorms when I did a soccer camp there a few years ago.
> The dorm sucked.
> Known mostly for having a good business program.
> I've heard that if you were to look at most of the top businessman in Dallas, an unexpectedly high percentage of them would be SMU grads.
>
> TCU - Slightly less wealthier and prestigious version of SMU. Located in Ft. Worth. (I actually prefer Dallas to Ft. Worth)
> I've heard that the school basically has two main cliques: those involved in Greek Life and everyone else.
> Not really known for anything, except maybe Business.
>
> Baylor - Located in Waco. Not much to do there. A lot of religious people want to go here.
> People mistakenly think that Baylor and Baylor College of Medicine are affiliated.
> They're not.
> Decent sciences and business program.
>
> Trinity - It seems like most of the kids that didn't have the grades to get into Rice applied here. Located in a nice area in San Antonio.
> Not as well known as the schools mentioned above, probably because a) the school is a Master's University and b) D-2 or D-3 athletics.
>
> Southwestern - I think one or two really artsy, nerdy girls went here from my class.
> Best LAC in Texas.
> Too small and unknown to be a blip on my radar.
>

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